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Known bugs

The tabs sometimes function incorrectly, not highlighting in red when there isn't any content to put in them (such as the theories tab on Bai Ling's page. -- Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  07:09, 22 February 2007 (PST)

As far as I can tell, that's a problem with the site in general, and not this skin. The theories tab on Bai Ling's page is blue with MonoBook, too. Triptolemus 18:37, 24 February 2007 (PST)

It's minor, but every once in a while on IE6 (and I think I saw Pandora mention this on IE7 too), you can't click on the editing box or editing summary box until you've clicked one of the editing tabs (like bold or italic). You can get the editing summary box by clicking just above it. It's not every time, just occasionally. -BearDog 10:11, 27 February 2007 (PST)

Fixed bugs

IE6 : The on-page edit subsection options are missing. -- Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  15:44, 19 February 2007 (PST)
IE6 : Image placement.

Bug Comments

RE: Image Placement bug

• Seems fixed. Thanks! The whole thing looks much better when it's all put together. One question though, there aren't any Google ads on the sidebar or bottom anymore. I'm okay with it if Admin is, but I also don't mind seeing them if it helps pay for site upkeep. Or was the google search maybe a good trade? I'm never sure how these things work... -BearDog 08:48, 21 February 2007 (PST)

• There is a Google Advert along the bottom of all the pages that by the terms of the Google Adsense T&Cs. A second advert will most likely be placed verically underneath the language options on the left hand bar. Currently the Google Search bar at the top is not part of the Adsense for Search program. It is provided as an added tool with no money made by Lostpedia, however this may change. -- Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  10:03, 21 February 2007 (PST)

Tested Platforms

Internet Explorer 6 - Windows XP SP2 - OK *

Internet Explorer 7 - Windows XP SP2 - OK *

Internet Explorer 7 - Windows Vista - OK *

Firefox 1.5.0.10 - Windows XP SP2 - OK

Firefox 2 - Windows XP SP2 / Mac OS X 10.4.8 - OK

Firefox 2.0.0.2 - Mac OS X 10.4.8 - OK

Firefox 2.0.0.3 - Windows XP SP2 - OK

Firefox 2.0.0.3 - Ubuntu Linux - OK

Safari - Mac OS X 10.4.8 - OK *

Safari 3.0 Beta - Windows XP - OK *

Safari 3.0 Beta - Windows Vista - OK *

Opera 9 - Mac OS X 10.3.8 - OK *

Opera 9 - Windows XP SP2 - Slight bug : Tabs need to be lowered by a couple of pixels *

Opera 9 - Windows XP SP1 - OK *

Opera 9.10 - Linux - OK *

Opera 9.10 - Windows XP SP2 - OK *

Opera 9.20 - Windows XP SP1 - OK *

Opera 9.21 - Windows XP SP1 - OK *

Opera 9.25 - Windows XP SP1 - OK *

Mozilla 1.7.13 - Linux - OK

Konqueror 3.5.5 - Linux - OK *

Epiphany 2.16.1 - Linux - OK *

Galeon 2.0.2 - Linux - OK *

K-Meleon 1.02 - Windows XP SP2 - OK

K-Meleon 1.02 - Windows Vista - OK

Netscape 8 - Windows XP SP2 - OK

Netscape 9 Beta - Windows XP SP2 - OK

* Rounded borders use Mozilla only code. If the code, or something similar to it is ratified into CSS standards, the skin will be upgraded.

Browsers that support rounded borders

Firefox
K-Meleon
Mozilla
Seamonkey
Netscape 8 and 9 Beta

Discussion

Background Colour

The CSS is missing a background-color attribute, at the moment it defaults to the browser (usually OS) defined value. Whilst, yes, 9 times out of 10 this will be white it would probably be worth specifying this - other than that, great work :) RTO 03:18, 30 May 2007 (PDT)

Tab Separation

Content moved from tested platforms section above.

looks fine to me

• Firefox 2.0.0.2 - Mac OS X 10.4.8 - Text in tabs need to be better centered vertically or given more vertical space

• I do not have this bug on Firefox 2.0.0.2 on Mac OS 10.4.8. It looks fine. -- Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  09:36, 25 February 2007 (PST)

• Firefox 2.0.0.1 - Linux - Same as above, only for the "edit" tab (too much on the right -- this tab works fine on Lostpédia FR, though)
  

Note: - The tab separation is by design and is not a bug.    Jabberwock    talk    contribs    email   - 10:47, 27 February 2007 (PST)

Bug

Image links (like the ones here: Portal:Main Characters) have a blue line through them on hover (when using Safari at least). Otherwise, looks great! Artofboredom 18:06, 22 February 2007 (PST)

I get a blue line on hover, too, but it's the same with or without this skin. Triptolemus 18:38, 24 February 2007 (PST)

The blue line is normal, it indicates it is an image that is a link. It is not a bug, and occurs of every browser with or without the new skin.-Mr.Leaf 18:44, 24 February 2007 (PST)

• As Mr Leaf observed, it's because it's the image link, but specifically, it's because of a custom template we have on our site: Template:PortalImage. It forces a text link to an article instead of default to the image, so the blue line is just reading that "invisible text" (actually, large font spaces) and is normal. --PandoraX 18:58, 24 February 2007 (PST)

I like it!

Same here Blue eagle islander. I've been using the site longer than I have been a member, and during the time of my registration, I went right to the themes. This looked like the best one, so I kept it. Def had some issues in firefox... or was it outside of firefox. I can't remember, but I'm back to IE 6 anyways. :]

I've had it for a while now, and I like it! --Blueeagleislander 02:10, 19 February 2007 (PST)

Sure, I'll use it. Bettyfizzw 06:13, 19 February 2007 (PST)

I like it. However, I prefer the search box on the left instead of the top. --scribbleink 07:10, 19 February 2007 (PST)

I was like that, but I honestly adapted to it after about five minutes, and now find it fine --Nickb123 (Talk) 08:30, 19 February 2007 (PST)

I like it, but the pictures got all messed up when I did it. Hopefully someone can fix that. --Mr. Crabby (Talk) 12:02, 19 February 2007 (PST)

I like alot. It's the same for the most part except for the ocean view and plane at the top. devilspalm

Yeah its not that radical a change. And yep the image thing is the main IE6 bug which Jabr and Plkrtn are in the process of combating --Nickb123 (Talk) 13:01, 19 February 2007 (PST)

I like it. This is the first skin I picked to use when I first became a member. WarthenMan

I've been following Lostpedia's articles since long time but just today became a member and I really like this skin, except for the default skin I don't like any of the other ones.--Binary Seed 22:36, 20 February 2007 (PST)

I like this skin. I've been using it since it was added and love it. It gives the site a unique look without changing too much. -- Paladine<c.t> 08:28, 22 February 2007 (PST)

I love it! Lostfan612 20:40, 8 March 2007 (PST)

I'll second that motion! --Bobi (talk) (contribs)13:19, 15 April 2007 (GMT)

Good but...

change the search box to its original position and im all for it! Good Work! -- Iron Man  Send a message  View contributions  10:29, 19 February 2007 (PST)

Ditto. The search box takes up too much room, so that you have to scroll down to see much of the article. Great idea, though! Limabeen 12:24, 19 February 2007 (PST) Wait - is this going to be permanent? Because I don't see what people are complaining about if it's just another skin they can choose. :P Limabeen 12:24, 19 February 2007 (PST)

This is anticipated to be the default skin. There will be nothing to stop you using Monobook. -- Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  01:06, 20 February 2007 (PST)

I'm going to have to third this request. The search bar on the left was much more intuitive, I think. Hunter 12:58, 19 February 2007 (PST)

I'd disagree about intuitive search. Most sites put it in a similar position. Reddit, TWiT, del.icio.us, Flickr, Blogger.com and its blogs...  Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  01:06, 20 February 2007 (PST)

Yes, but most wikis (wikipedia, etc.) tend to put the search bar on the left.  :) Hunter 07:34, 1 March 2007 (PST)

I'll go ahead and make that four. Put the search box back on the left.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pom5msu (talk • contribs) .

Looks awsume! but the search bar should go back to the way it was, n i think it should gt rid of google because people might type in the google not meaning leave the page. Other than that it I love it.

Yep I will finally support this if and only if the IE6 is fixed and the search bar goes to the left. Really it's too much bother to lift my curser all the way up there. ^_^ Princess Dharma (banned)

I'll make it six --Mr. Crabby (Talk) 14:21, 19 February 2007 (PST)

The plane looks kinda out of place, would look just as good w/o. snakes on an escalator

I agree with the search bar comments - and also I reckon the colours could do with toning down a bit, they're slightly TOO bold against the white main page. Perhaps trim it down a bit in size after relocating the search bar as well? Or at least put a title on the graphic, a lot of blank space up there.--CharlieA 14:42, 19 February 2007 (PST)

Where is the logic of putting a title on the graphic, when we have Lostpedia's logo on the site? I'll do a test of the colour tone. There is a very good reason that the space at the top is there. It'll all become clear why.  Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  01:06, 20 February 2007 (PST)

Make me number Eight.--Ex-Pope Cardinal Richard Corey 18:15, 19 February 2007 (PST)

I agree with the search bar comments as well...but I'm willing to give it a try for awhile. --Amberjet11 12:36, 20 February 2007 (PST)

Yep, search box on the left. Ummmm.... The image is really great, and this is probably a little artsy of me, but I don't really feel it encapsulates everything about Lost. I like the idea of seeing the big event occur, but why not something like the Season 2 DVD box cover? While putting characters would (obviously) require a lot of update as they're added/killed off, something to do with the major motifs/themes would be even better. Eyes, maybe? - mr_tee_canada, 4:16, 20 February, 2007

Ditto.--Nokia (Talk) 21:55, 1 March 2007 (PST)

Unfortunately, due to copyright restrictions we won't be using any images that aren't freely available for us to use. However, we do have plans regarding the background.  Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  13:46, 20 February 2007 (PST)

We'll take comments on board

Thank you. We'll take all these comments about moving the search on board.  Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  01:06, 20 February 2007 (PST)

UPDATE: February 24, 2007 : The new version of Lostbook which will be uploaded soon has an option to move search back to the left. -- Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  16:39, 23 February 2007 (PST)

Thanks Plkrtn, now everybody gets what they want. Good work to everyone to created this, it looks superb. -- Iron Man  Send a message  View contributions  10:57, 2 March 2007 (PST)

Customization

A CSS file has been uploaded that will allow users who prefer the side search to move it back over. You will need to add lines to your personal CSS file (in my case User:jabrwocky7/lostbook.css). Either plkrtn or myself will make better instructions later, but for now you can read more at Lostpedia:Lostbook/Customization.    Jabberwock    talk    contribs    email   - 20:54, 25 February 2007 (PST)

Nice

I like it! It looks very nice on my computer.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jakovexc (talk • contribs) .

Sorry

Afraid I don't like it, I much prefer the old plain white background, this one sticks out too much. Princess Dharma (banned) 10:39, 19 February 2007 (PST)

GREAT. Adding more as I have just realized. This has slowed my connection and my prefernces page has now been screwed up by it so I can't change it back. Just super.Princess Dharma (banned)

I have the same problem as Princess Dharma! This has messed up my preferences page and I cant change it back!! I dont really like it and i preferred the old one. I find the search box posistioning really awkward too. Either fix all the problems or keep it as it is. Gracielou01

It's O.K Gracie Beardog told be how to change it back, click a different tab in the preferneces any random one and it should go back to normal. For Internet 6 users like us though it is terrible and I am still very much opposed to it.Princess Dharma (banned) 11:16, 19 February 2007 (PST)

Thanks, I'd just worked it out and was about to come back here and post but you got there before me! Anyway, Im strongly against having this as the new default. Gracielou01

No thank you, Maybe if it blended into nothingness better, and the search on the side. --Ohmyn0 (talk) 15:46, 19 February 2007 (PST)

Troubleshooting

Explains how to get back to the monobook skin for those testing who get "stuck".

upgrade link

Asking regular editors to upgrade or select a different skin in their preferences is easy, but new users who surf by would just keep surfing on by if the default is buggy on their browser. -BearDog 13:14, 19 February 2007 (PST)

Erm, which is exactly why I've stated I think twice on this page that it would never be made default unless the IE6 bug was fixed, cause 60% of users use IE. --Nickb123 (Talk) 13:16, 19 February 2007 (PST)

• Right, none of us are asking or will be asking casual users to upgrade while it's buggy, we were just explaining this to the people who are testing this, that we know about it and are working on it (I too am on IE6). --PandoraX 14:20, 19 February 2007 (PST)

The IE6 image float problem should be fixed, but it's awaiting a file upload from Admin. I have tested on my dev server and fixed a few IE6 problems. Everyone should keep in mind that the problem isn't the main CSS for the skin, it's that IE (both 6 and 7) isn't fully compliant with CSS standards.    Jabberwock    talk    contribs    email   - 13:28, 19 February 2007 (PST)

Indeed. Its being worked on all the time. The site design is fully CSS compliant. Sadly, what we're having to do is make fixes that break that for IE6 and IE7. But, as 55% of people who visit the site, we have to keep these browsers in mind. Having the geek cult audience that Lost does, we're lucky in a way that only 55% of the visitors have IE, from a design aspect. We ask existing users who can change their skin exactly for that reason Beardog. We want our users to test the skin, to make sure that it works long before we look at defaulting to the skin, that it works for the casual passerby! :) Oh, and i'm investigating how we can change the default skin for those who are stuck on IE5 or IE4, though if you are (because you're on a really old PC) then you really, REALLY should be using Firefox. -- Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  13:36, 19 February 2007 (PST)

IE6 here. Extremely garbled, too flashy and confuse. It's just a variation for the worse of the default theme, really. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Grillage (talk • contribs) .

It is a variation on the original theme. How its for the worse on any other browser than IE6 (which we acknowledge there are bugs) I have to disagree on , personally. -- Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  12:41, 19 February 2007 (PST)

Right... but as stated there are IE6 bugs... so there's little gain criticising it when we're openly saying it isn't working right on your browser. I didn't like it at first cause of bugs, but when I used it properly, its actually quite good. --Nickb123 (Talk) 11:43, 19 February 2007 (PST)

Y'no, you IE6 people really need to get more upto date lol, go on the microsoft website or something, or get the ace Firefox browser, its great, much better than IE. Faster, greater possibilities (tabbed windows etc) and better quality.--lewisg 11:42, 19 February 2007 (PST)

nickb123 and lewisg both have good points there. If I were a Windows user, I'd definitely upgrade to IE7 by now, and we do acknowledge that IE6 currently has bugs that need fixing.  Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  12:41, 19 February 2007 (PST)

I think the confusion here stems from the use of the sitewide banner. I suspect that it was just used to get a wider pool of feedback, but to others it might seem a sign of immediate implementation. Being buggy on IE6 would be a real problem if you were planning to set the new skin as a site default, because many users are comfortable with IE6 and feel no need to upgrade. I'm one of them, because everytime I upgrade a Microsoft program they either invade my privacy a little further, or there's massive security holes. I just don't feel the need to upgrade when I'm not having problems (a buggy skin on one site doesn't count as a browser problem). On the other hand, I like the explorer interface better than firefox, netscape, or whatever linux shareware is popular this week. I have no doubt that you guys fully intended to fix the skin before the default went up, I just wanted to clarify. The new skin looks good, although I still like the monobook better. -BearDog 12:52, 19 February 2007 (PST)

Yeah we intend to make sure IE6 bug is sorted before considering whether to make it default. I think it was something like 60% of our visitors are IE, and 98.5% of them are either IE6 or IE7 --Nickb123 (Talk) 12:59, 19 February 2007 (PST)

It seems to work on IE7 (as its much more standards compliant). IE6 is the big problem. 25% of site visitors use it. Its the most used browser. I've changed the site wide header to clear things up a little. -- Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  13:38, 19 February 2007 (PST)

More Praise

Mwahaha, it's quite good actually, took some getting used to after using the original for so long, but now it looks great! --lewisg 10:46, 19 February 2007 (PST)

Seems fine to me, used it since I figured out how to change skins. I'm on Firefox 2.0. --J-- 15:44, 19 February 2007 (PST)

• I enjoy it. Just a little bit of eye candy to make it stand out from all of the other wikis.--TheWoj 21:21, 19 February 2007 (PST)
  • Ya, I agree. It gives the wiki more of a, umm, "natural" feeling. Just need to fix a few bug and it should be perfect. --Gateboy42 08:49, 20 February 2007 (PST)
    • I love it, and always have. Definatly better than monobook. Well Done!--   Dee4leeds  talk  contribs  all  08:53, 20 February 2007 (PST)

• Its alright. There's not really much different. --Quint

• Seems fine to me. Looks nice, i wouldn't mind if they became the default here, it would give us uniqueness compared to many other wikis.-Mr.Leaf 13:14, 20 February 2007 (PST)

• I'm still on IE6, but now it appears that the internet bugs have been fixed. I've been surfing around for a while, and I like it. I hope it becomes to new default, because it's a unique skin, whereas the monobook, while nice and simple, is not anything specific to Lost. That's just IMHO, though. I think most people are just afraid of change, because they get really used to something; I think now that the bugs are fixed, if this was set as a default, most of the new users who hadn't seen the monobook would actually protest to it being changed to that. --PandoraX 08:16, 21 February 2007 (PST)

Shouldnt be default

The skin is OK, but i prefer Monobook better. I think it should be an option so users could use it. I think the search is a horrible idea. It makes so much more sense on the side, and whats the point of google search? If you want easy access to the google search, download the google search toolbar (which btw i configured to search Lostpedia). New users might be confused with the search on the top, not the side. --ZEKE?(> 17:13, 20 February 2007 (PST)

I don't get what is confusing about the search, personally. Nearly all websites have their search at the top of them. Digg, TWIT, BBC, Yahoo, Myspace, Google, eBay, iMDB, Flickr, CNN, Blogger, Amazon, Technorati, Ziff Davis, CNET, Microsoft... Studies into intuitive design show that its the best place for it. You may have configured Google Toolbar to do that, but we shouldn't expect every user to have that kind of knowledge.  Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  01:12, 21 February 2007 (PST)

• I agree 100%. No offense, but I prefer the clean look. The Google search is also not necessary. I actually prefer Yahoo! to Google. Finally, I would say that I loved the search where it was. This comes from someone who surfs onto the homepage probably 50-70 times per week. Sorry, changing back! Monobook just looks great!!!--Divinetorture 22:05, 20 February 2007 (PST)

So, you prefer Yahoo! to Google. The world of search disagrees with you. Google is by far and away the market leader, and for good reason. Yahoo! doesn't index us very well, whereas Google has every single page in Lostpedia indexed. I find the Google Search a fantastic tool for searching for phrases in transcripts, looking for phrases etc, things that the internal search is poor with. By being a signed up user, you can always back to Monobook.  Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  01:12, 21 February 2007 (PST)

It shouldn't be default until all bugs are fixed. --Blueeagleislander 22:02, 20 February 2007 (PST)

We aren't stupid. Give us some credit!  Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  01:12, 21 February 2007 (PST)

Comment: Most people quite like this new lostbook, and tbh its pretty much the same as monobook anyway! If you dislike it, as a registered user you can switch back to monobook quite easily under preferences. --Nickb123 (Talk) 03:24, 21 February 2007 (PST)

What we are considering is not the registered users but the new ones who won't be able to change the skin and may be but off the site by it. No offense to the creator because I know it is very popular but it is a bit too overpowering to be considered professional. My nice white monobook is much better IMHO. Princess Dharma (banned) 04:12, 21 February 2007 (PST) Personally, even though I co-designed it, its much much more professional than Monobook. Monobook is the wiki ipod. It looks OK but once everyone has one, you need to personalise it. -- Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  09:46, 21 February 2007 (PST)

• Now that the bugs seem fixed (clear cache), I hope people give it a chance again. I couldn't get used to it at first either, but now I think it's cooler and more unique than the monobook, and the search box on top is just good use of white space. And people who don't like the aesthetics for personal taste reasons can always switch to monobook in the preferences. --PandoraX 08:18, 21 February 2007 (PST)

To Princess dharma, sorry but I don't understand where you're coming from. You're suggesting that new users may be put off by the new skin? Its exactly the same as the old one in appearance minus a brighter background design at the top and a moved searchbar. Do you think new people coming to a site on the Internet will think "Well!, I am certainly not going on a wiki where their searchbar is at the top!!!" - I honestly do not understand why a small minority is up in arms when its hardly different and all it does is make us more unique --Nickb123 (Talk) 08:50, 21 February 2007 (PST)

I have to agree, I don't understand the idea that casual or new users would have issue with this skin design. I can understand some people prefer the search to the left, but as I've highlighted many times, the majority of the web has search at the top right like we have now. The background is 120 pixels high, and the majority of that is covered by white too! The background was also grey before, all the way down. Now its colour for 120 pixels and then white. We have more white on the site than ever :) -- Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  09:56, 21 February 2007 (PST)

I'm not up in arms I am just explaining my reasons for disagreeing with the change is all and it has nothing to do with the search bar. I'm saying that most professional websites have white backgrounds and that bright and colorful ones like this tend to put people off. The search bar isn't a major issue at all. Please don't think I'm offending the people who worked really hard to make this at all. Princess Dharma (banned) 08:58, 21 February 2007 (PST)

I'm not saying you're trying to offend, just that your argument isn't really a major criticism, as the site is still white minus a little colorful banner at the top. And its not even that bright, its just the horizon. --Nickb123 (Talk) 09:02, 21 February 2007 (PST)

During the design phase, I tested several options including a vertical background, and various background designs. When the first design tests took place, I explored several Mediawiki skins personally, and it was decided for familiarities sake, we would base the new skin on Monobook. Its very functional and familiar to many, many people. However, the limits of Monobook were that, short of changing the logo, which we already had (twice!) There wasn't much customisation that could be done. With the background as it is, we still have 85% white coverage. If you look at the BBC News site for example. Its one of the top 10 sites in the world, yet it has far more colour coverage than Lostpedia. We needed to make the site stand out from other wiki's, take on the feeling and ethos of Lost, rather than just look like another Wikipedia family site. We're three months down the line on this skin, and nearly everyone has been very happy with it.-- Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  09:46, 21 February 2007 (PST)

Well O.K then I respect that but I think critisism is more important than praise. In fact praising it is pretty much pointless. I don't reckon that certain people should be complaining that we are critisising because in doing that we are giving you ideas on where this new page could improve. I've said enough now though and need to let other speeak. ^_^ Princess Dharma (banned) 09:07, 21 February 2007 (PST)

Lol ok then. Obviously criticism is needed, but I just didn't see it as constructive cause its really a non-issue. And praise is of course necessary as we need to know it doesn't hurt peoples' eyes or whatever. --Nickb123 (Talk) 09:09, 21 February 2007 (PST)

O.K then I'm sorry if I misunderstood you. P.S MY EYES!!!!!!!!!!!!! They burn!!!!!!!! Princess Dharma (banned) 09:13, 21 February 2007 (PST)

• It gave me a headache. Too much blue. Low quality image. Very distracting compared to the nice tight look of Monobook, which also looks more inconspicuous when I am surfing at work. --Divinetorture 12:17, 21 February 2007 (PST)

• I'm not going to even begin on how gobsmackingly ridiculous the idea that it could give you a headache is... Further more, I'd love to know what you consider a low quality image, as that photograph it originated from was a 9 MILLION pixel photo that hasn't been scaled. I would say you probably need to visit an optometrist if you are getting headaches looking at it. Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  12:26, 21 February 2007 (PST)
• Oh and just to add to that, if you can make a better image to replace it, add it to my user talk page and I'll test it out.  Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  12:38, 21 February 2007 (PST)
  • Sorry, for the negative comments, I tried to make a better image and failed. It does not give me a headache. --Divinetorture 22:31, 27 February 2007 (PST)

• • • I think the image is fine. Its obsolutly crazy if that gives you a headache. -- Iron Man  Send a message  View contributions  10:59, 2 March 2007 (PST)

LOVE IT!

I love this skin. The one thing that sort of bugs me is that I keep thinking the search box is on the left, but I actually like it at the top a lot more. More space and stuff. Keep up the good work! --Isolation815

Annoyed

Can you please take the bar about Lostbook of some pages. My all means but it on the main page but it's just annoying atop other pages ESPECIALLY my userpage. Princess Dharma (banned) 09:47, 22 February 2007 (PST)

Sorry, it's in the sitenotice so it gets put on all pages. Rest assured though, it's only temporary.    Jabberwock    talk    contribs    email   - 09:50, 22 February 2007 (PST)

But it's annoying and not even that important. Princess Dharma (banned) 09:53, 22 February 2007 (PST)

Thanks for your opinion.    Jabberwock    talk    contribs    email   - 09:55, 22 February 2007 (PST)

Looks better than Monobook, ...

... and the non-round-corner tabs look fine. the rounded corners for the mozillas just look stupid. that's my opinion. It should be the default theme.    Hannibalector    talk    contribs    email   13:25, 3 April 2007 (PDT)

Can you...

• Just wondering, can you customize the lostbook thru .css extensions, i.e. User:Marik7772003/lostbook.css? Thanks, and great job, plk and jabber. --Marik7772003 18:48, 22 February 2007 (PST)

• Yes.    Jabberwock    talk    contribs    email   - 19:58, 22 February 2007 (PST)

Yes, you can. If you have the wherewithal about you, you could move the search back onto the left. -- Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  01:26, 23 February 2007 (PST)

• I went ahead and did the legwork on this since it requires modifications to the php file for the skin as well as the css. A new version has been sent in to Admin to upload. If someone wants to put the search bar back on the left they can @import a fix file from their personal lostbook.css file. This revision also includes adsense on the sidebar.    Jabberwock    talk    contribs    email   - 13:29, 23 February 2007 (PST)

IE 7 Bug

I just recently saw this, I don't ussually use IE so this is the first page I've noticed.

• The link for the logo is actually up and to the right (clicking the book does not work)
• The second menu on the left nav bar (what links here, related changes, etc) does not appear however u can click on the white space and the links are still there.
• The actual lostbook image (not normal one, i've changed it) does not go as far down as normal.

This only page I found this on is David Reyes and I'm using I.E. 7 with all the most recent windows updates. I'll try and see if its possibly me changing the skin picture. Perhaps someone else who has IE 7 can see if the page works for them or if its just me. -Mr.Leaf 16:54, 25 February 2007 (PST)

P.S took off my .css page and cleared the cache and using the default skin it skill had the same problem. -Mr.Leaf 16:59, 25 February 2007 (PST)

What resolution you runnin at? -- Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  18:02, 25 February 2007 (PST)

800 x 600. Normal resolution. -Mr.Leaf 18:04, 25 February 2007 (PST)

It's only happening on pages with Infoboxes. I'm sure that is the root cause.    Jabberwock    talk    contribs    email   - 20:42, 25 February 2007 (PST)

Template:Infobox_Dubbing_Actor doesn't have the problem and Template:Infobox_Guest_star does. I don't have time to research the differences now but perhaps someone else does?   Jabberwock    talk    contribs    email   - 20:49, 25 February 2007 (PST)

Def the infobox thats cause the trouble. But I can't see the problem myself. I'm at work so I can't spend too long on it!  Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  01:37, 26 February 2007 (PST)

I went through and pulled the guest star infobox apart piece by piece and found the problem it seems to be the

float:right

which is the crucial part of the infobox as it makes it stay on the right of the page, at the moment I'm going to see if I can fix it now, although not sure how that would work. -Mr.Leaf 09:53, 26 February 2007 (PST)

The problem only seems to occur on Template:Infobox Dubbing Actor, Template:Infobox Guest star, and Template:Infobox Flashback Character. Now the following one doesn't have a problem when placed on a certain page, but the actual page for the template does have the problem, Template:Infobox Cast. And finally the Template:Infobox OceanicPassenger Character is completely fine and works. All of them contain the

float:right

line, however I am sure that is the problem on at least the Guest star template. Time for someone with a little more knowledge of the topic to see if they can figure it out. -Mr.Leaf 10:10, 26 February 2007 (PST)

I just sent Admin another IE7 fix file that should correct this problem. and hopefully the one below.    Jabberwock    talk    contribs    email   - 12:04, 26 February 2007 (PST)

This bug is fixed.    Jabberwock    talk    contribs    email   - 07:00, 27 February 2007 (PST)

IE 7 Bug 2

While searching for the fix to the above bug, I found another bug in IE 7.

It happened after I clicked the watch tab on a page and did not show up on all pages except categories, special pages and the main page. I'll try again to see if I can recreate it in a few minutes. -Mr.Leaf 09:53, 26 February 2007 (PST)

I couldn't reproduce this bug. Does it still happen without your custom css?    Jabberwock    talk    contribs    email   - 12:06, 26 February 2007 (PST)

Nice one

Hello. I really like the new skin and think it definitely should stay. So far I've not noticed any problems or bugs.

Thanks, Harper980

Problems with text input boxes

After I switched to lostbook, I've found that I cannot actually click to enter text in a box such as the one I'm typing in right now. I had to actually click one of the banner buttons (such as bold, italic, etc.) to make the curser appear and allow me to start typing. I also can't put anything in the "Subject/headline" or "Edit summary" sections because of this problem. I switched back to Monobook and everything works perfectly again. However, I do love the skin, and can't wait to see what you guys do with that empty space! ShadowUltra 18:32, 28 February 2007 (PST)

Hey, although i can't fix your problem, i'd suggest writing what browser, and version you use and when (if not always) it happens to help Jabr and plktrn fix it.-Mr.Leaf 18:34, 28 February 2007 (PST)

I' sure I'm using Internet Explorer 6 (although it might be 7-any way to check?) and running Windows XP. ShadowUltra 21:09, 28 February 2007 (PST)

Is it one page, or all pages? Can you take a screenshot?  Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  07:24, 1 March 2007 (PST)

I also have this problem. It mostly happens to me when I attempt to edit/create new pages, but I noticed the same thing when in my preferences section when trying to check the box labeled "Monobook". When you try to click into the textbox to edit, it acts as if it is solid and not there. I don't think a screenshot would help, there is no visual glitch, it's probably something wrong with the allignments of the templates and all... Thanks for any help, --Gateboy42 16:34, 1 March 2007 (PST)

Curious, perhaps its something in your IE settings. -- Iron Man  Send a message  View contributions  11:02, 2 March 2007 (PST)

This is starting to become a serious problem. When I created this page (warning: spoilers) I was unable to type in the box where it asks you to answer the math problem because of URL links. I had to switch back to Monobook and will have to stay with Monobook until this problem is fixed...ShadowUltra 16:27, 9 March 2007 (PST)

I am aware of this problem but have not yet had time to fix it. Most of the time you can click somewhere around the box to get into the box (top of it, left of it, etc.)    Jabberwock    talk    contribs    email   - 16:31, 9 March 2007 (PST)

Update: I have sent a new IE6 fix file to Admin for upload that should correct the problem. After it's uploaded I'll need some editors on IE6 to try out the skin for a while to see if the fix causes any other problems. If all is well I think we can make Lostbook the default.    Jabberwock    talk    contribs    email   - 12:40, 14 April 2007 (PDT)

idea

I think we could do without the ads. Doesn't everybody agree? --Zen4me 18:28, 17 March 2007 (PDT)

The ads raise the money to keep this wiki running. I'm sure admin would gladly do away with the adds if you would kindly donate the money needed to keep the wiki running to him. ;) -Mr.Leaf 18:33, 17 March 2007 (PDT)

They are the only source of income for the site, we don't do donations or membership fees or something like that. And, you can always ignore them. --Blueeagleislander 18:34, 17 March 2007 (PDT)

Just add this to your monobook.css, well actually your your lostbook.css

If you're not going to click them anyway there is no need for you to be seeing them. :) -Sloths 18:01, 24 May 2007 (PDT)

Bunny #8

I just noticed the Bunny in Lostbook, and it made me laugh. Don't know how long it has been up, but it is nice. Good job! David 16:50, 8 April 2007 (PDT)

• It's a special image that we put up for most holidays. We'll probably be taking it down tomorrow. Thanks! --Marik7772003 17:23, 8 April 2007 (PDT)

I like the Easter image. --|MMORTAL /\LIEN 20:15, 9 April 2007 (PDT)

• This is part of the skin, on holidays we'll be customising the site with a change of background, ala Google! :)  Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  09:34, 14 April 2007 (PDT)

Default ?

When will Lostbook become default? Are all the bugs fixed now ? DrGiggles 10:56, 4 May 2007 (PDT)

I think we are ready now, but we have to wait for Admin to make the changes on the server side of things. I definitely think we should do it before the season finale.    Jabberwock    talk    contribs    email   - 08:03, 7 May 2007 (PDT)

Excellent! I've been using Lostbook for months and I think it's finally ready. -Some Person 14:35, 28 May 2007 (PDT)

Not being impatient or anything but the article says it will be default by March 2007 at the very latest. However, now it is the end of July and still no default. When will this become true ? DrGiggles 03:43, 30 July 2007 (PDT)